These are unedited transcripts and may contain errors.

NRO/RIR Plenary,
4 November, 2011, 9 a.m.:

CHAIR: Good morning everyone. Welcome to your red?eye flight. We are going to take it nice and slow today. I am still waiting for a couple of people to show up, so we'll start the session in a couple of minutes.

Hello. And good morning everyone. Welcome to Friday, the last day of the RIPE 63 meeting here in Vienna. It's been a very busy week, lots of people, lots of fun and nice early start for you. This is the NRO/RIR reports section, and we have on our list to start, Adiel A. Akplogan from AfriNIC, but we are having trouble trying to connect with the lines so we'll continue to try to reach him throughout this programme but we'll go ahead and start this morning, all you survivors, with Paul Wilson from APNIC, so come on up.

PAUL WILSON: Thanks very much, Nick. It's been a while since I have presented at a RIPE Meeting, actually. It has something to do with the time slot, I have to say, and I learnt this this week this time slot is known here as the red eye, which is very accurate, but we are all in the same boat, so thanks very much for being here.

So, I have got kind of random sampling of update material from APNIC. I'll go through it without spending too much time on all the details but very happy to answer any questions afterwards, of course.

So the first item of business is our resource delegation rates here, which are showing you the last couple of years and the year to date in 2011. The interesting thing, I guess, is the IPv4, which is the tallest bar there, because all of that happened before we ran out of ?? well, most of that happened before we ran out of of address space at the beginning of the year.

The other two are ASNs and IPv6, and another interesting thing there is that we probably won't reach the amount of IPv6 this year as we reached last year, so there is an element there of saturation, I guess. ASNs are a steady sort of growing line.

Membership growth, the other surprise for us this year was projecting a budget that assumed that membership growth would more or less stop with the end of the IPv4 free pool, but we have had a record year in terms of membership growth, surprisingly, so that's looking up and we are trying to understand it and project next year on the basis of some more information about what might be happening there, who is joining, why they are joining APNIC and whether they'll be doing the same thing next year.

On the v4 exhaustion, the topic on everyone's list, we reached our final /8 on the 15th April, 2011, that was after receiving three /8s in the ceremonial dwindling of the IANA pool in February this year, so we received ?? we moved into the final /8 and started allocating from that final block from 103 /8. At that point we activated a new allocation policy called the final /8 policy, which is effectively a rationing policy which gives any organisation who asks one and only one allocation of up to /22. Actually, they could have several allocations totalling a maximum of /22 per member or organisation.

So that's a rationing policy, it was passed through the policy process quite a few years ago to provide some ongoing certainty and availability of IPv4 after the conventional allocations had run out, and that of course is how we are consuming that address space now, it's a pretty slow rate of consumption in terms of the number of addresses and it's expected to last possibly ten years at the current rate of allocation.

So, we made ?? we have made 583 delegations out of what, 16,000 possible in that block, across 30 economies of the region.

And there is an illustration of how those final /8 delegations are being made. Quite a lot at the beginning. It's worth mentioning that when we hit the end of the IPv4 pool of the conventional allocations, we had 180 allocation requests in the queue, all of whom were told that they would get a /22 instead. And so that was a shock for some and not others. The shock for us was that we had a total of six complaints out of 180, and only a couple of those carried any sort of threat of escalating to anything legal, for instance, and that didn't happen either. So, it was a really quiet and smooth transition from the conventional allocation model into the final /8, and I just ?? I tribute that completely to amount of planning and the amount of information, dissemination we were doing in the lead up and I have seen the RIPE NCC approach to the final /8 or to your exhaustion planning and it's very similar, but I am hoping that you have the same experience as us, that with that kind of detailed planning, that you'll also not experience anything too radical in terms of complaint, let's say.

Moving on. We have been involved with route server deployment, another couple of route servers, in Mongolia and in Bhutan during this year. So far we were the first of the independent, the first kind of independent body to be sponsoring a route server outside of the traditional operators and that was an F?root in Seoul and that was about 10 years ago. So since then we have put a total of 25 around the region and there is a whole stack more which have gone out through other mechanisms.

The policy implementation so far this year: We have had three policies implemented in the first part of the year after the March meeting distribution of an adjustment to the way, or a clarification of or policy on IPv4 distribution once the final /8 period starts and that says that any address space that is returned or any further address space that's returned will be allocated according to the same policy, until some adjustment is made of course. Allowing a minimum delegation size under the final /8 down to /24 and removing ?? we had a renumbering requirement in the final /8 policy as well and that was removed.

So, at the last meeting, there was consensus on just one policy proposal which was an important one. It came through the final comment and the final endorsement period from the APNIC EC at a meeting just yesterday, that's the APNIC board, and so we now have a change to your prior transfer policy, which requires the recipient of a transfer in the APNIC region to demonstrate their requirement for that transfer under the normal or the previous allocation request process before they can receive approval for the transfer. So, that was the subject of a lot of discussion. We started off our transfer policy without that needs?based allocation, but it caused a certain inconsistency between the regions in terms of expectations of transfer policies and specifically a needs?based transfer policy. So, you know, rather than trying to, in the name of avoiding a region black market pushing black market transfers into a sort of inter?regional space, it seems ?? this is speaking from personal opinion ?? it seemed better, I think, I think the right decision was made to change the policy in favour of global consistency there.

It was originally ?? sorry, moving on. There were three other policies returned to the mailing list, returned to the policy process for further discussion. One was for a national, a process of allocation of IPv6 address space to countries, and that didn't reach consensus. Another one on IPv6 reservations and another one on optimising v6 allocation strategies. So all the details of these things are on the APNIC website if you are interested.

We have got a new area at APNIC, a new major organisational area called learning and development, and that's under a guy who you probably know, Phillip Smith, ex of Cisco, he has been attending RIR and NOG meetings and running training and all sorts of similar events around the world, actually, for years, so it's great to have Philip on board, and as we go into planning for next year, we are going to be doing more work in this general area of learning and development, so, please stay tuned for that if you are interested.

We have got, under that reading we have got a training lab for online access to routers and servers and so forth from training sites. We are doing sort of web NRs, if you like, the term for online life training seminars, we are doing a bunch of collaboration in the training space. We are also, under this banner, providing live realtime hubs for remote participation into APNIC meetings.

The IPv6 programme is another area of activities which is pretty active at APNIC running things like v6 transition, Plenary Sessions at two recent conferences. The IPv6 deployment workshop which happened at ICANN 41, and supporting a bunch of regional v6 activities, v6 and v6?related activities, which there was an inaugural Singapore NOG meeting featuring a lot of IPv6 global summits, and so forth, which have all got a great deal of interest in v6 these days, we are secretariate for an Asia specific IPv6 taskforce as well.

There is also a bunch of IPv6 related activity in the intergovernmental space. Running through them briefly. APEC?TEL has been a great environment and a great forum for us to be promoting an IPv6 message and the sort of fairly basic connection that we were able to successfully make there was that in connection with APEC?TELS, there are aspirations for global, or widespread broadband deployment in the APEC region. They have got a goal of widespread deployment by 2015. The simple fact it they don't get without IPv6 and by promoting that message it was really quite successfully pushed through a very political process up to the ministerial level.

Moving on, AP, it is the regional telecommunications group that feeds into ITU processors, so we are active there. There is a couple of different Pacific?based organisations, and there is also the ITUD regional office in the Asia Pacific, which we are paying some attention to.

In the technical area, just moving right along here. A lot of activity on the in.addr server E, that we host. Nice colours there.

The technical area has adopted Agile as a methodology for project management and it's really going extremely well. It's been an all?embracing kind of adoption of Agile. They have got 95% of their target under the agile system, targeting for implementation by 2011. This is actually a screen grab of a live board that we have got up in the technical area. If you want to see the progress of the software development team in particular, you can wander in there and look at the lines which I'm not going to explain today.

APNIC labs is being launched, a sort of a soft launch which has started already but very much for the next year. Geoff Huston, George Michaelson, who you both know, you know both of them, they are both here in the meeting this week, staffing the R and D activities under the lab's banner. A bunch of remote measurement stuff that's going on at the moment, with Google analytics use of measurements IPv6 client capability, which has been well?publicised and well received as new work in the space.

DNSSEC, DS records submitted to IANA in May, we have got users able to update their own DS records through MY?APNIC, through the portal. And so that's all gone quite swimmingly. Public affairs is another area, it was very nice to see the Cooperation Working Group yesterday and I made a couple of comments there supporting the importance of that activity and set of activities these days in the multi?stakeholder process which we are all promoting these days. But we are involved heavily with the NRO in IGF in OECD in quite a few of the collaborations that I mentioned under the IPv6 banner earlier.

We have got a new APNIC logo and corporate identity which was the product of quite a lot of work, soul?searching and questions of taste and so forth, as it always is. The four dots come from a v6 address enclosed by a collaborative community. It's very dynamic. If you look at APNIC business cards, the actual specific logo and colour changes all the time so it keeps the kids amused. It's quite nice.

Coming up finally, APNIC 33 is in Delhi next, late February. APNIC 34 is in Cambodia in August next year and APNIC 35 is in Singapore in February 2013, and we are still looking for the next meeting sites. So, thank you very much. If there are any questions, I am happy to answer now or later. Coffee break, lunch time, any time. Thanks.


CHAIR: Thank you, Paul Wilson. And he is the director general at APNIC. And I forgot to introduce myself at the beginning, my name is Nick Hyrka and I am a Communications Manager at the RIPE NCC. We'll move on to the next presenter, and that's going to be from ARIN and that's Nate Davis, the chief operating officer. Nate, come on up.

NATE DAVIS: Good morning. How is everybody? As Nick mentioned I am Nate Davis, I am Chief Operating Officer at ARIN. For those of you who are familiar with RIPE, I am Andrew's counterpart over in the ARIN region.

I just have a brief update on a number of things this morning.

So, ARIN's focus throughout 2011 has been the continuing our efforts on adopting our processes, reaching out to the community and so forth regarding IPv4 and also IPv6. We have implemented some new policies, we are continuing to do work on our core systems which is ARIN online, or web portal interface in our registration, and we have had some good progress this past year regarding DNSSEC and also RPKI and I expect particularly with RPKI that that work will continue.

And under the direction of Cathy Hanley, we continue quite a bit of work in the Internet governance. I'll talk a bit about all those.

Starting first with the ARIN inventory. ARIN currently has about 5.67 /8s. I checked this morning and this number still accurate. So this does not include quarantine space. That's space that has been set aside for routing filters to clear and so forth. But if you are interested at all you can go to ARIN's website and on that first page in the bottom right, we have a counter that shows exactly how many /8s that ARIN still has in inventory.

So, as Paul mentioned, there was an event early, I guess it was February 2011, where the IANA free pool ran out. As all of, you know, and so this is the allocations that have taken place since that time and throughout 2011 and it's interesting to see because there were quite a few allocations made in the first two months, and ARIN has significantly dropped off when it comes to the number of of allocations that have made since then. Now, at the same time that this occurred, there was a policy that went into effect that limited the amount of allocations that somebody could get ?? to an organisation could get to a three months supply. That is part of the reason that we have with seen these some requests drop off, or reduce, I guess I should say. We had a little bit of a pick?up in September, but still, overall for the year, it's behind what collectively had been previously years.

So when we look at the distribution of IPv4 and IPv6 against our membership, it's interesting to see that one third of our subscriber members have both IPv4 and IPv6, while two thirds still only have IPv4. So, some of the work that we are doing within the ARIN region is to encourage that adoption. Like the other RIRs and promote the use of IPv6 as the next protocol.

We have had a couple of policies implemented this year. One is better IPv6 allocations for ISPs. We have partially implemented this policy. This is ultimately in February of 2012, allow organisations to request up to a /12 if they meet the qualifying requirements, of course, but we have partially implemented this from the standpoint that we can now issue up to a /24 and we are doing some software work and specifically zone file work that will allow us to issue up to a /12 if an organisation meets those requirements. And then we also implemented ARIN 2010?14, which was standardising the IP reassignment registration information. As you can see, it extends the cable IPv4 allocation policy, lowering the utilisation threshold but also increasing at the same time the information requirements required for utilisation.

Swips are mandatory for /64 and larger static assignments and it also required a component that all organisations identify an Abuse POC.

So we just had an ARIN meeting in Philadelphia a couple of weeks ago. A number of policies, I won't go into these too deeply, but clearly the global policy for post IPv4 adoption by IANA, allocation mechanisms by IANA went to last call and we have had quite a bit of debate regarding ARIN's inter?RIR transfer policy. That's gone to extended last call and there is quite a bit of mail list activity regarding that. Then the community has asked the AC to continue more work on some of these other policies while abandoning 2011?13.

So, on our public facing development efforts side, this past year we have integrated a portion of our billing services into ARIN online, basically tying in reminders and invoicing through that system. There is still some more work that we have to do along those lines including such things as allowing credit card payments to be made within ARIN online, and similar. We also did some additional works with the at the moment plates and corresponding restful modules in enabling them to be API?enabled. Recently we have rolled out revamped IRR as a result of requests from a community in a mail list activity. The community asked for ARIN to put a little bit stronger authentication on the IRR and, as a result, we implemented a CRYPT?PW and also PGP on the IRR. So that's in place now.

RPKI: So, we have both hosted and delegated services, we are planning to implement in 2012. Hosting coming first, probably in the first half of 2012. The delegated model capability will come later. DNSSEC, consistent with what Paul Wilson reported, APNIC, likewise ARIN is fully implementing an operation regarding DNSSEC for its responsive zones.

Outreach: Lots of outreach going on this past year. ARIN has been all over the ARIN region working with the ?? with organisations and various, various shows and so forth, continuing its efforts to promote IPv6 and if parts of the industry weren't aware that IPv4 free pool is exhausted. So those efforts continue and, as you can see, there is a number of places here that we have been to. This is only a very small list. The efforts with Cathy Hanley on Internet governance and some of the other ARIN staff is certainly much more travel involved than this as well as the specific speaking engagements that staff, particularly John Curran, do, throughout the year and so this is just a small representation of the number of things that ARIN, the ARIN staff is going on behalf of the community.

We have upcoming in our spring meeting, April of 2012, we will be in Vancouver, British Columbia, sponsored by TELUS. We welcome everybody to come join us there, and, in the fall, Terramark is sponsoring the ARIN meeting in Dallas, and that's going to occur in October of 2012.

STENOGRAPHER: Will JR be there?

And that's it, any questions? Thank you.


CHAIR: Thank you, Nate. And next up our Latin neighbours, Luisa Villa, our customer services manager from LACNIC. Welcome.

LUISA VILLA: Hi, good morning, everyone. Thanks for having me here. I am going to talk a little bit about what we are doing in Latin America. So the first news that we have is that we have reached the benchmark of 2,000 members, this just happened a few weeks ago. This is really relevant if we take into consideration that just two years ago, we only had like 1,000 members, so we have doubled the number of members in just two years, so, this is also an indicator of how rapidly the Internet is growing in the region at the moment.

About the resources that we have: We have around four /8s. That's about like 68 million, we are predicting that probably about mid?2014 we will run out of IPv4. And you also can follow this statistics realtime online, you can just go to our website and you can see just more or less the graph of how are we assigning these resources.

So this is how we are allocating the resources in the region. The red part is the IPv6 and the blue part is the IPv4, so normally, at the moment, we are giving out like 30% IPv6 and around 70% of IPv4. This is like the yearly allocations of IPv4. We are, at the moment, giving around a little bit over of /8 per year.

Here we can see the ASNs. We are giving more for byte ASNs and it is important to say that we are not really getting a lot of, you know, companies coming back to us saying that they cannot use a 4 byte. Only a few cases in Argentina, so we are doing pretty well in this area. But the important projects that we work this year and then we are planning to work next year. We have the IPv6 week that is a Latin American initiative but really everyone can join. It is organised by NIC.BR, ISOC and LACNIC. This is to promote the adoption of IPv6 and also used to do some testings, and if you are interested in participate, you can go to or you can send and e?mail to IPv6 at NIC.BR.

Some of the important projects. Well LACNIC is trying to implement these culture orientated to the customer, so we are trying to work closer to our customers to better understand their needs. Now it's like part of my job, actually. We are actually working on RPKI, we launched the system in January. At the moment, we are working in the hosted mode and we hope to go to the delegated mode by the end of this year, and we also created this special area on the LACNIC labs, where people can go and just try to you know get familiarised with how to certify the resources and then if you are comfortable, they can go and provide their own resources. We are working in the DNSSEC as well. We have already signed the zones and we are planning to sign the child zones by the end of this year. We have been working a lot of in IPv6. We gave, like, 10 work shops in seven different countries in the region and we also provide this for all these people that can not actually come to the tutorials and we have really a good participation in this web, and many people are getting the benefit of it. We are also working a lot with research and development.

There is others, like it was a special thing that our engineer in the department told me to just to share this, that we are doing some interoperability tests with, companies, Junos, Cisco, IOS and Quagga. Also we received this lab for IPv6 training which was donated by Cisco through their programme 6 deploy, that is actually financed by the European Union.

Other projects that we are working on is Amparo and the goal to ?? of Amparo, is to provide training to promote the creation of [] CSIRTs. We have the actual first CSIRT meeting in Buenos Aires a few weeks ago. We had 8 or 9 CSIRTs that got together, we got together on a mailing list to share information, we are really like willing to work together, they actually already plan the next CSIRT's meeting for our next conference in [] /KAOET owe in May.

The other programme ?? well we have been working with this programme for six years now. So, this is the regional fund for digital innovation in Latin America. We have found like more than 1.5 million funding research, and two years ago we introduced the FR IDA award where we recognise the better projects and as a part of the prize this year, we took the winners of an each category to the IGF in Nairobi and they thought it was a really good experience.

We have the RAICES programme, which means roots, and it's just to install copies of route servers and we are planning to install two more before the end of the year.

SARA is another service we are providing to our client which is an interface that they can use to update the data and you know the ISPs can update automatically with that LACNIC's data.

These are two events that we had this year. The first one was in my country in Mexico, we have almost 300 participant in there from 32 countries. 7 policies were presented there, three of them reached consensus and we have already been ratified. The other meeting we had it like at the beginning of October, it was held in Buenos Aries, Argentina. We have 324 participants from 28 countries, they were presenting 6 policies and three of them reached consensus and they are now in the process of the last call. These are the policies that we discussed in Mexico, and they were mostly just to put at like, eliminate discrepancies in the policy, so a little adjustment and global policy exhaustion for IPv4. These are the policies that had been discussed a few weeks ago, and they are normally, they are trying to impose that option of IPv6. So what they do is like if you have an ISP and you want to request more resources, you have to also request IPv6. I mean you you can request IPv4 but you have to request IPv6 if you don't have it. If you already have it what you have to do is you have to do a little report to say what are you doing with the IPv6, like, you can't just say we are not doing initial, or you can say we are doing this or that, it's give an idea of what the community is doing so it's going to be interest to get some reports and to promote the adoption of IPv6.
The other one is for newcomers, like, when we started giving our addresses for the last /12, all the newcomers will have to get IPv4 and IPv6 all together.

The next meetings that we are having next year, they are going to be, the first one in May, it's going to be in the week of the 6th May. We are going to have the general meeting and the policy forum. We also do this meeting with other organisations like the LACGLD, which is the ccTLD organisation of the region. We have security and IPv6 and IX forums. We have going to have a special date for our second meeting in October because LACNIC's birthday is actually on October 31st, so we are going to be celebrating our 10th anniversary, so, you are all welcome to come and join us and celebrate with us in our meeting in Monday at the have I day owe. Which is where the LACNIC offices are.

And that's all. Thank you.


CHAIR: Thank you. Next up we have a report from the number resource organisation and representing the executive Council we have got Axel.

AXEL PAWLIK: Good morning, it's nice to see that the room it filling up slowly. I am sure if you do a statics on the average number of hours slept per night, the night Thursday to Friday would fall out on the bottom. But I'm not going to tell you much about statistics in this. This is an update from the NRO. I am a member of the NRO Executive Council together with my colleagues.

The NRO is basically the RIRs speaking together and acting together. Early on in the 2000s for the express purpose of protecting the unallocated number resource pool in the unlikely case that something should happen to IANA. That hasn't happened. That's good. And our day?to?day work basically is about pro mosting and protecting the bottom up policy development process, industry self?regulation, all that, and to act as a focal point for Internet community input into the RIR system so people who don't want to travel to all of the RIRs can talk to the NRO if they want to. Also according to the MoU that we signed, together with ICANN 2004, the NRO is performing the function of the address supporting organisation within ICANN.

Current office holders, Rajoul is Chairman, John is secretary. Paul is Treasurer. On holiday weeks we don't have any formal job within the EC this year.

We have a couple of coordination groups within the NRO. Sort of looking at particular subjects. Engineering, communication, public affairs, coordination groups and also the registration services managers do talk to each other quite frequently about basically operational issues.

Like I said, the NRO is performing the role of the ASO within ICANN, that means that we have an address Council that is a couple of 15 partially elected partially appointed individuals from all five RIRs regions. And they basically have quite a limited and precisely defined set of work items: To oversee global number resource policy work ?? exactly, global policies are those that govern how the RIRs get their resources from IANA. That needs policies, we call them global policies and there is, in the MoU that we have with ICANN, it's precisely listed how the PDP on that level goes. And the address councils there to take care of that and see that it goes well.

Also, an important role of the address councils to appoint two directors to the ICANN board regularly. And of course ICANN is a fairly big organisation, and lots of sub bodies there and the address Council has taken upon themselves to serve on those bodies as needed from time to time.

Also, it's there to, as the name says, the address support organisation, to advise the ICANN board on addressing policy matters. A number of those matters in general and that's what we occasionally do there.

That's the whole long list. I won't go through all of them in great detail. Of course the presentation is available on the website if you want to check.

The ASO, and ICANN the NRO does fund ICANN partially for many, many years already, and the bottom of the slide you see it's $823,000 per year that we contribute all together as the NRO, and there has been a little bit of criticism coming up recently, occasionally, this is a very stable amount that we give them. Of course the ICANN budget has, or is ballooning, it's growing really big so our little contribution in percentage goes down and some people think that it's not quite appropriate. I think it's perfect because the amount of work IANA is doing for us, or ICANN is in general doing for us has not increased particularly over the last couple of years so this is just fine. Obviously the RIRs have to agree with each other on how we divide cost there and that holds true to all of the jointly incurred costs at the NRO, we have a formula and we are occasionally revising it, looking at it but that's basically how it went for 2010.

We do go to I dare say all the ICANN meetings, not all of us all the time, but in various sections we go to them. That's a list. Typically what we do at ICANN meetings is not that much. We have been asked and we are being asked relatively regularly by the governmental Advisory Council of ICANN to present to them. Typically on matters of IPv6 adoption and IPv4 runout, although that is going quite well, we haven't had any recent interactions with the GAC there, and of course they are busy with many other much more controversial things. So we are, this little part of ICANN that just works quite well.

We have done a couple of work shops as the ASO at ICANN meetings, and it's always interesting to see, as everything works so well and there is lots of other attention on other things, the participation in those workshops is relatively low. But it's important that we are seen to be on the agenda and that we do them. However, we have changed our tack a little bit apart from doing just the workshop, we also went this time and that was last week I think, we went off to Dakar and did it slightly different, we went to the other support organisations and subcommittees there and presented in their meetings so that gave us much more eyeballs, it was quite an interesting event.

We had a meeting with the ICANN board, also with the SSAC, like I said, the GNSO, CCNSO was a fairly active meeting.

Internet governance forum. We go to those places regularly and you certainly heard about this regularly in the Cooperation Working Group I would think. Lots of things we do there. The last meeting we had in September was in Kenya, we had again lots of interesting workshops there that we organised and co?organised, they were well?attended. We have regularly a booth that is manned by NRO staff just to pass out collateral and to explain to people coming by what we are doing and how we are do this. We had a meeting with the Assistant Secretary?General, Thomas Stelzer whoever's talking quite a lot about real plus 20 and how the Internet is important to saving the planet and how the multi?stakeholder way of doing things is good and the UN can't ignore that any more and doesn't want to. That sounded very good and we hope it will come through like that. And stays like that.

Last bullet point: We had a meeting with the present governmental representative over breakfast about the Indian, Brazilian and South African proposal that was collated around that time on more roles for the governments in this whole Internet governance area and you might have heard that India has actually launched basically following from that, an application or a paper into the UN to create an UN body to oversee all the Internet governance organisations that we all right know. I am not sure that it goes that far but it's an indication of what governments are thinking in some of those areas.

The national cooperation: We are talking to the ITU regularly. Last year what was quite interesting was the IPv6 Working Group looking at problems with the allocation of IPv4 and IPv6. Apparently there were no problems found so there is no meeting of the Working Group this year. That's okay.

We do regularly and quite often now talk to the OECD and take part in meetings there and deliver statistics and data, basically. They come to us and ask. That's good. We are on their map.

Within the NRO, engineering coordination, of of course the biggest project currently is the RPKI project that all the RIRs are working together on in implementation, in development, in making sure that our systems are talking to each other, and are compatible.

We heard a bit earlier, we had this meeting in Miami earlier where IANA ran out of address space, we tacked on an NRO workshop that was hosted by ARIN to talk about current count issues there. We had another NROEC retreat in August hosted by LACNIC and we'll have another of iSTAR CO executive meetings with the iSTAR organisations, ISOC, ICANN, the RIRs, IAB I think also, IETF, to talk about the big issues.

What we currently mostly talk about, or have talked about the is the establishment of a public affairs coordination group. So all of the RIRs keep an eye out on what's happening in the public affairs in that area and alert each other to things that we have to do jointly, papers, statements and the like. RPKI plans: Of course as we see here this week, a hot topic, we do coordinate technically, on the technical level. I also try to bring inasmuch as possible the state of affairs and sentiment from this particular service region there. We have the ongoing, as you know already, if you followed this week a bit earlier, the ASO review initiative. Legacy space: We are talking among each other how to handle this, what to do, what we agree on.

Recent communications: Lots of letters and e?mails flying back and forth. Also about the IANA contract, we said quite clearly that we wouldn't want the contract to expand in any sense there. That we should keep the IANA things together and all those things that you probably know about. Also we have had a couple of meetings, also last week, with ICANN leadership about RPKI certification project. Global Trust Anchors and the like and I made it again very clear that we have not asked ICANN yet to do that. We have, speaking for myself, no authority to do that because our communities don't know exactly how this should be going yet and we are waiting for that. So we need some discussion here before anything can happen there and they understand that.

All correspondence is on the website, as it should be.

If you have any questions, I am available. And I'll stay here for the rest of the day.
Thank you.


CHAIR: Thank you. Following with the NRO information, we have got an NRO statistics report from Andrea.

ANDREA CIMA: Morning, my name is Andrea Cima, as Nick just said, from the registrations services department at the RIPE NCC. This is the NRO Internet number resource status report, which is a report made by the five RIRs together on a quarterly basis. As you can see from the date, this one is 30 September, 2011.

Not much exciting news on this slide. It hasn't been updated for a while. As you can see in the doughnut on the top left?hand side and all the IPv4 address space. As you can see IANA reserve says they were ready for a while. Not available /8s are 35, those have been reserved by the technical community. 91 /8 are tagged as central registry and those are the /8s that have been issued before the, mostly before the existence of the RIRs. And then we can see that the RIRs all together have received 130 /8s. Out of which 45 are with APNIC, 35 to the RIPE NCC, 36 to ARIN, 5 to AfriNIC and 9 to LACNIC.

Now, how much address space have the RIRs issued over time to their members? Now, we can see that there has been a steady growth over time. A few points that are interesting to see is that in the RIPE NCC service region, there has not been an incredible growth this year, things are quite constant and this also shows that there has been no panic after the IANA runout. Also interesting to see that APNIC, in the first four months of the year, still allocated about 6 /8s.

Now, this is the total amount of address space issued by each RIR. About 31 and a half /8s by the RIPE NCC, about 17 and a half by ARIN, 44 by APNIC, 2 by AfriNIC and 6 by LACNIC.

Now, moving on to ASN assignments. We can see that until 2004, ARIN was the RIR that was assigning the highest number of AS numbers. That role has been taken over by the RIPE NCC starting from 2005. We can also see that there is still a growth trend in our region, a constant growth trend. Interesting to see here as well, is that the number of ASN assignments has gone up also this year quite a bit in the APNIC region.

Now, if we look at at the ASN assignments over time. ARIN and the RIPE NCC are quite close to each other, 22,000 and slightly more than 23,000 RIPE NCC. AfriNIC, about 750, 2000 LACNIC and APNIC, 7 and a half thousand.

Now, we created this new slide last year to show what is going on in 4 byte ASNs. You can see that in 2009 and 2010 the RIPE NCC has been the RIR issuing the highest number of 4?byte AS numbers. We see a peak growth in the APNIC region this year and this is mainly due to the fact that they have issued about 6004 byte ASNs to their national Internet registries. What's also very interesting to see here and this confirms what Luisa said before, is that we see that about 300 out of the 4 hundred AS numbers issued by LACNIC are 4 byte. So they are actually, the RIR which is the most successful with 4?byte AS numbers. And the RIPE region, the 4?byte AS numbers count for about one third of the total.

If we look at the total amount of 4?byte AS numbers, the RIPE NCC has issued over time, about one?and?a?half thousand. LACNIC about 500, ARIN about 40, APNIC about 9 hundred, and 26 for AfriNIC.

Now, coming to IPv6 address space. We see the doughnut on the top left is all the IPv6 address space. Out of this is /3 is reserved for global Unicast. IANA has issued in October 2006, a /12 to to each of the RIRs and we can see that there is one /12 which is tacked at miscellaneous and this /12 contains the /23s that the RIRs were receiving in the early days.

Now, we can clearly see in this graph that there has been, that there is constant growth in IPv6 allocations from the RIRs to their members. At the RIPE NCC I can say that we had quite a big peak of IPv6 requests which went up by four times in February after the IANA depletion. But we can see that the growth here is constant in all the regions.

If we look ?? there are two doughnuts here. The one on the left?hand side shows the number of allocations made by each RIR. If we look at the doughnut on the right?hand side, we see, in terms of /32s, how much address space has been allocated. In /32s, because that is the minimum allocation size in other regions. If we look at the numbers in the right?hand doughnut, we see that the numbers are much higher, meaning that all the RIRs have been issuing many allocations which are actually quite larger than the minimum allocation size itself.

Finally, with IPv6 assignments from the RIRs directly to end users, we can also see here that there is a constant growth in all the regions, so nothing particular.

Here is where you can find the raw data and the slides if you would like to see them afterwards. And that's it. Do you have any questions?
Thank you.


CHAIR: Thank you. Next up we have the IANA update and we have got Filiz Yilmaz, who is the senior director in participation and engagement.

FILIZ YILMAZ: Hello, Filiz Yilmaz. Yeah, I have 20 minutes to fill and I don't get that very often, I know that from my previous times, especially as the RIPE NCC staff.

I just want to make a remark that this is an IANA update and this is normally given by the IANA team and this time, due to the last minute change in the schedule, my IANA colleagues couldn't stay up until this moment, Joe Abley had to leave this morning so I took over the duty and I will try to, you know, entertain you for the next 20 minutes.

The first slide is about the requests for proposals for IANA. As you may have been following during the summer period, there was further Notice of Inquiry for the IANA contract, and there were 48 responses received. As Axel mentioned, there was reasonably supportive responses from NRO and IAB. The next step is going to be publishing this request for proposals and NTIA has announced that they would publish this on the 4th November, which is today, so later today, we will probably here an announcement about this. And we expect it to be open for a months time.

One of the things the IANA team is very busy and has been busy over the last couple of years, and you probably have seen this in their updates over the time, is about their business excellence activity. This is about going through their processes and ?? work processes and working on some kind of self assessment, so they can identify the improvement areas, once they identify those improvement areas, they move on creating little projects out of these, setting target days and deliverables, and this has been going on for a while now, for the last three years, and recently they have been concentrating on the documentation side of things and for their core processes. What happened was that this, you know, process flow was documented in several different areas in different form as and they now combined it in one single format. During this day, continuously obviously, review their key point performance indicators and they are setting new performance targets to this is an ongoing effort and it will continue to evolve.

The other update from IANA is basically about the root zone automation. If you are following up this in August, again during the summer months, there was a new interface launched. Through this new web interface now, there is more ease provided for the requests for changes. Now, I must stress the fact that this is web interface change. So the practice itself and the process itself didn't change. We just changed the user interface, and it's not even changing the user interface, it's an addition to the user interface, because old?fashioned at the moment plates are still accepted. But those of you who'd like to use, you know, better user interface, you are able to use that.

All the TLD operators are now credentials for the system and they seem to like it, that's what we hear.

One of the recent activities of Leo Vegoda, who is well known among you, I believe, as part of the IANA team, was talking to RIRs and RS managers particularly, regarding the IPv6 sparse allocation practices. Earlier this week, Alex will he will you already made a presentation about that asking you if you would be happy, with the RIPE NCC continuing with what they are doing in regards to reservations in their IPv6 sparse allocation practices, and this effort is basically understanding each other and making sure that there are no surprises and it's transparent and if possible, there can be an automation. That is a basic call, and I believe the conversation is ongoing in that regard.

The other good stuff is, first of all, the DNSSEC has received some accreditation from SysTrust. This is like a web trust accreditation for those companies that issue DSL certificates, and our auditor was PricewaterhouseCoopers and we are happy that we received this. The other important thing I would like to mention is that the IANA team is not only serving to RIRs, but there is a considerable amount of requests received from IETF too regarding protocol parameter assignments, and we have an SLA agreement with the IETF and what happens this year so far, we met and exceeded the expectation and the set SLAs for those requests. And you can see those numbers publicly because IANA performance is publicly published on the IANA website.

The last point I would like to make is about M This is a specific domain name for IPv4 multicast assignments, and it has been run on a volunteer basis so far. What happened recently is, this has been redelegated to some highly performable new name servers now and it is DNSSEC site.

I don't think I will be able to fulfil the rest of the session. I don't know what Nick's plans are, but thank you for having me and being the voice for the IANA team, and if you have any questions, I can try to answer.


CHAIR: We have a lot of time left and what we are trying to do at this moment is get connected with Adiel A. Akplogan in Africa, we are trying to get him, we have connected with him, but we are trying to get his presentation. So give us a couple of minutes.

We have an update. We are still downloading his presentation. It's a very slow connection so we are going to fore forego that and and we are going to try to get him on the telephone.

ADIEL A. AKPLOGAN: I am not sure if you have the slides?

CHAIR: They have been downloading very, very slowly. I don't know what the connection rate is, but it's not complete yet.

(I can't understand him) ??

CHAIR: I am sorry to interrupt you, unfortunately the connection still isn't that good, so we can't understand you very well, it's a bit garbled, I am sorry, we just can't find a way to get you connected in a good way. Try again. That's a bit better.

ADIEL A. AKPLOGAN: Can I try again then?
I was talking about the situation here, we have a people working some time now in AfriNIC for which almost 70 new staff running 18 months a year, we have a lot of persons for coaching and monitoring. We did have supervision to cover and before the end of the year, we have eight new positions open. There is the position of new structuring that we have put in place last month. The new structure, you don't have the slides ?? a new structure has a cheaper version of ?? would be the cover mediation and the service and IT engineering and beside that we have the final HR administration which are two new departments.

In terms of numbers, we have quite significantly increased our IPv4 allocation in 2011, due to the rush because the IP exhaustion, but also because of the increase of the increase in broadband rollout in many countries in Africa. We have allocated 108 IPv6 prefixes, which is a significant growth as well compared to last year, nearly 100 percent.

What we are focused on in terms of projects here, we have started redoing our server, we have get the codes from RIPE NCC and now are reworking the code completely and [] /EUPBT in our internal system.

RPKI, as you know, we have tried as much as possible to keep within the NRO defined time frame. We have second deploy the AfriNIC portal which allowed them both to use the ROA and the certificate is working, we have do you

We have also in our server environment, this is the project that has got... the DNSSEC is also one thing that we are doing with our reverse DNS zone. All the system is up now. We are fine?tuning the provisional system that we have to be able to take into consideration all the situations of DNSSEC.

In terms of corporate update, the cooperation thing is now working on new project and a new website. We also ?? of the company... we have some new things that allow us, giving us more flexibility in terms of our international version. This includes the... so our interconnectability will be going to the community in those activities as well.

With regard to numbers, again we have a period, almost 8 million models, 8 million /22 IPv4, already more than we have done in ?? we have already assigned 100 / ?? and we have already 104 new members in 2011.

Our total available IPv4 address is, if we take into consideration various fragments in the last /8 we have about 4.4 /8 available right now in our IPv4 pool.

All are not available because we still have our software information to be applied to the last /8, so if we remove that we have 3.4 /8s including all the fragmented space.

In terms of policy under discussion, we have six policies right now in our discussion basket. Three will certainly be abandoned because they have reached the expiry date in the last meeting at AfriNIC 15. We have three in operation which are still open. The soft landing policy which is in the last call. We also have the abuse contact, which is ratified awaiting implementation and that is also linked to our performance coordination.

That's it. I will just conclude by inviting you to our AfriNIC 15 meeting in Cameroon, this will be from the 19th to the 25th November, it will be a full week with plenty of events with four days training on ?? certs training followed by a plane recession.

That's briefly it. I have skipped on the slides with graphs because I cannot talk about them, at least I think they are not up ?? they are uploaded on the website for you to see.

Thank you.

CHAIR: Thank you, and we will make sure that these slides are put up on the website for everyone to access. Anyone have a question for Adiel A. Akplogan? Thank you very much for being patient with us and thank you for your presentation.


And I believe that's the ?? that's everything for this morning. I had one announcement, there is apparently a coat that's been lost in the room yesterday, so if you are feeling a little bit warm today, double check to see that you are not wearing an extra jacket. Otherwise thank you, and we'll see you at the next session.

(Coffee break)