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18:10 < BECHA_RIPE-NCC> Hi, I'm Vesna, and I will be Jabber scribe for IPv6 WG session.
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18:11 < BECHA_RIPE-NCC> Shane is currently presenting slides by Tim Chown on renumbering of IPv6 networks.
18:11 < BECHA_RIPE-NCC> I will listen to your quesitons and relay them to the speaker.
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18:15 < masterF00> JFYI, There are some more points on many of the slides of the original .odp file ... doesn't show up on the beamer since it's out of the layout :-)
18:15 < masterF00> not very important but just if some wonder
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18:17 < BECHA_RIPE-NCC> "need operators feedback" - anything from jabber?
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18:28 < timc> the question is what would be of value to operators?
18:28 < BECHA_RIPE-NCC> sorry, too late :(
18:29 < BECHA_RIPE-NCC> they closed the mike too fast for me... sorry again...
18:29 < timc> yeah just got back to my desk, sory
18:29 < marcoh> sorry tim
18:30 < BECHA_RIPE-NCC> if you want me to pass on your question to Shane - can you say your name & organisation? and/or email address? otherwise, you cna write to shane directly yourself - if you need it, i'll type in here his email address...
18:30 < BECHA_RIPE-NCC> oh
18:30 < BECHA_RIPE-NCC> timc is the author...
18:30 < timc> yep :)
18:31 < BECHA_RIPE-NCC> ;-)
18:31 < timc> sorry didn't realise talk was on first and had a student issue to deal with
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18:33 < shane> Hey all. Where can I find information on how to connect with a normal IRC client instead of the web-based stuff?
18:34 < Djinh> irc.ripe.net is your friend
18:34 < shane> Thanks!
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18:36 < BECHA_RIPE-NCC> Questions?
18:37 < BECHA_RIPE-NCC> about RIPE-501...
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18:40 < BECHA_RIPE-NCC> Next speaker: Constance Burger, from German Government
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18:40 < nfs> vladimir, mennekes electro. a question: where various translations of ripe-501 can be obtaines?
18:40 < nfs> obtained
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18:42 < BECHA_RIPE-NCC> (test, please ignore)
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18:42 < Djinh> works: 16:41 < BECHA_RIPE-NCC> (test, please ignore)
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18:42 < Natha> :)
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18:45 < nfs> anyone can answer my question?)) jan stated that there several translations of ripe-501 available.
18:45 < nfs> blah, my chat client has a nasty keyboard
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18:46 < marcoh> nfs I think he was referring to the original slovenian document
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18:47 < nfs> he mentioned !10! translations))) do slovenians speak all them normally?)))
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18:48 < BecHa_RIPENCC> nfs: yes! serbian,croatian,bosnian,herzegovian,montenegrian,slovenian... is that 10 already? sorry, could not resist the opportunity for this joke ;-)
18:48 < nfs> or i guess they are still internal
18:48 < nfs> hahah
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18:49 < shane> Good to see a European wide effort being booted up.
18:49 < nfs> )))))) while many ppl mix ukranian, belorussian and russian, etc..
18:50 < Djinh> shane, .de government has been quite pro-active
18:50 < BecHa_RIPENCC> Questions?
18:53 < nfs> russian citizen wont pay for initiatives like that. too many bad roads, leaking waterpipes, siberian issues....)
18:53 < BecHa_RIPENCC> fs: do you want me to say this on the mike?
18:54 < nfs> why not)))
18:54 < BecHa_RIPENCC> can you tell me your name & organisation?
18:54 < Djinh> /whois nfs
18:55 < shane> I guess that explains the map here: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/becha/ipv6-ripeness-production-updates
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18:56 < Djinh> nfs, Becha needs your name and affiliation for the mike
18:57 < nfs> actually its a matter of priority politics of particular country.
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18:58 < BecHa_RIPENCC> nfs, sorry, i've missed a few minutes. did you say your name?
18:58 < nfs> vladimir kraynov, MENNEKES co.
18:59 < BecHa_RIPENCC> thanks
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19:01 < Natha> Oh, Tahar is there
19:01 < Natha> Djinh, please send him my regards
19:01 < Djinh> will do
19:02 < BecHa_RIPENCC> Timo from xs4all: status of ipv6 deployemnt in xs4all
19:02 < nfs> yeah, and when russians get back from roads to network, it will be too late
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19:08 < BecHa_RIPENCC> Questions for TImo?
19:10 < BecHa_RIPENCC> Next is an experiment...
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19:11 < BecHa_RIPENCC> Lightning talk:
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19:11 < BecHa_RIPENCC> Chris on Gelobal IPv6 Deplyment Survey -- a proxy speaker^2
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19:12 < BecHa_RIPENCC> s/Gelobal/Global
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19:13 * Djinh is taking over the relaying of questions for a few minutes
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19:16 < BecHa_RIPENCC> Thanks Djunh, BecHa is back...
19:16 < BecHa_RIPENCC> Next: Marco
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19:21 < NFS> How many ppl attended ipv6 courses in bosnia?
19:21 < NFS> Avg
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19:23 < BecHa_RIPENCC> Ole Troan from Cisco, Stateless IPv4 over IPv6
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19:24 < NFS> Marco, how many ppl attended ipv6 courses in Bosnia? Just approximatelly
19:25 < BecHa_RIPENCC> NFS: 25
19:25 < marcoh> approx it's 30
19:26 < BecHa_RIPENCC> I gave the course there last year.
19:26 < marcoh> ok, 25 ~ 30 is the average for our courses
19:26 < BecHa_RIPENCC> this year - maybe 30...
19:26 < NFS> Ok
19:27 < NFS> One can treat that Bosnian spikes as a coincidence... :-/
19:27 < NFS> That=those
19:29 < marcoh> yups
19:29 < marcoh> but then again we do see more of these signales
19:29 < Djinh> once is an accident, twice is coincidence, thrice is enemy action
19:30 < marcoh> in summary, nice exercise without any conclusive results
19:30 < BecHa_RIPENCC> Questions?
19:30 < BecHa_RIPENCC> Buy him a beer...
19:31 < NFS> Marco, What are your inside feelings when spotting such spikes as a trainings' results?)
19:31 < BecHa_RIPENCC> Jan has a question to *you*, the community:
19:32 < BecHa_RIPENCC> do oyu think the users will not be happy with a shared addresses or ports?
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19:38 < BecHa_RIPENCC> Next presentation: David Kessens: IETF ongoing work...
19:38 < NFS> We get more and more smart users willing to run servers at home.. For Shoutcasting, file sharing, etc.. But it's our goal to inspire them get more ipv6-aware.. Just a thought.
19:38 < BecHa_RIPENCC> On the personal title...
19:42 < BecHa_RIPENCC> Questions to David?
19:48 < BecHa_RIPENCC> Marco: Speed Dating...
19:48 < BecHa_RIPENCC> I guess remote participation does not help here...
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19:52 < NFS> It's all about long-term investments..
19:53 < Djinh> long term investments seem to have gone out of style in a lot of businesses :(
19:55 < d4n> yeah, some bean counters are very short sighted, even as much as 12mo payback
19:55 < NFS> Oh yeah. However, I guess Germans is no.1 who believe in long term investing ideas.. Thankfully
19:56 < shane> Not all business. Comcast funded DHCPv6 development like 6 years ago.
19:56 < shane> xs4all started it's IPv6 plans ages ago.
19:56 < shane> I'm just saying, some business are forward thinking.
19:57 < shane> Apparently ISC talked to a big ISP just last week who said they are not going to be able to dual stack in time, so they are a bit concerned they did not plan better.
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20:00 < BecHa_RIPENCC> The questions on jabber are closed now - the interactive part starts here, in the room.
20:00 < BecHa_RIPENCC> Thanks and good-bye.
20:00 < NFS> Actually I can count by fingers of one hand those orgs which invest into the ipv6 awareness/popularity in the world. In global manner I mean.